Protective Bond/Essense Bond - Guild Wars Forums

Pony Slaystation · Aug 25, 2009, 03:02 AM // 03:02

I was bored today, and while goofing around, I had a (not so great) idea. I thought that I could have 3 monk heroes, each with 14 protection prayers, using Protective Bond and Essence Bond on me. Protective Bond, at 14 protection prayers, drains 3 energy per hit. Since they are all maintaining it, they each should lose 1 energy each time I am hit. I thought I would be able to counter that by having each of them maintain Essence Bond on me, which would give them 1 energy each time I get hit, balancing it out. I tried going into Tombs, just for fun, and I was surprised that they still lost energy whenever I was hit by an attack. I was taking damage, so Essence Bond should have been triggered. My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them?
Example - 2 people are maintaining Essence Bond... would each person only gain 1 energy every 2 hits?

Winston · Aug 25, 2009, 03:14 AM // 03:14

You can only have a particular bond on you once.

MisterB · Aug 25, 2009, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation

My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them?

No. Each caster gains energy when their target takes damage. If damage is reduced to zero, however, there is no energy gain with Essence Bond. I haven't bothered with Protective Bond, so I don't have an answer to make it work in this case.

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Originally Posted by Winston

You can only have a particular bond on you once.

That is false. Only one effect applies to the target, but multiple casters may each receive the benefit from the same skill on one target.

Winston · Aug 25, 2009, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by MisterB

That is false. Only one effect applies to the target, but multiple casters may each receive the benefit from the same skill on one target.

That's interesting, I happily stand corrected

Schnellburg · Aug 25, 2009, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation

I was bored today, and while goofing around, I had a (not so great) idea. I thought that I could have 3 monk heroes, each with 14 protection prayers, using Protective Bond and Essence Bond on me. Protective Bond, at 14 protection prayers, drains 3 energy per hit. Since they are all maintaining it, they each should lose 1 energy each time I am hit. I thought I would be able to counter that by having each of them maintain Essence Bond on me, which would give them 1 energy each time I get hit, balancing it out. I tried going into Tombs, just for fun, and I was surprised that they still lost energy whenever I was hit by an attack. I was taking damage, so Essence Bond should have been triggered. My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them?
Example - 2 people are maintaining Essence Bond... would each person only gain 1 energy every 2 hits?

No, whoever cast Essence bond on you will gain 1 energy every time you are hit except when you are taking Zero damage.

IronSheik · Aug 25, 2009, 05:21 AM // 05:21

In theory, yes, but remember essence bond you must be taking physical/elemental damage.

A lot of damage in the tome is from chaos/dark damage, which does NOT trigger E-bond.

You also must be taking 0<

Jongal · Aug 25, 2009, 10:13 AM // 10:13

I hate to say it, but your idea is not so new. Assasins use it to rush atfh.

I only found a german link, but you can see the build anyway:

http://www.wartower.de/forum/showpos...43&postcount=6 (posted two month ago)

Quaker · Aug 25, 2009, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Pony Slaystation

Protective Bond, at 14 protection prayers, drains 3 energy per hit. Since they are all maintaining it, they each should lose 1 energy each time I am hit.

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My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them?

No, they will each gain 1 energy.

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IronSheik · Aug 25, 2009, 03:50 PM // 15:50

Actually ^^^ No, Protective Bond energy loss IS divided if all are casted on the same entity.

So three copies of 3 energy loss per hit would equal 1 energy lost per hit.

If the requirements of essence bond are being filled, the energy loss balances out.

Pony Slaystation · Aug 25, 2009, 04:35 PM // 16:35

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

In theory, yes, but remember essence bond you must be taking physical/elemental damage.

A lot of damage in the tome is from chaos/dark damage, which does NOT trigger E-bond.

That answered my question. Thanks.

Aug 25, 2009, 03:02 AM // 03:02	#1
Pony Slaystation Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cardboard Box Guild: Guilds are irrelevant. This... is...... BUILD WARS!!! Profession: Rt/	Protective Bond/Essense Bond I was bored today, and while goofing around, I had a (not so great) idea. I thought that I could have 3 monk heroes, each with 14 protection prayers, using Protective Bond and Essence Bond on me. Protective Bond, at 14 protection prayers, drains 3 energy per hit. Since they are all maintaining it, they each should lose 1 energy each time I am hit. I thought I would be able to counter that by having each of them maintain Essence Bond on me, which would give them 1 energy each time I get hit, balancing it out. I tried going into Tombs, just for fun, and I was surprised that they still lost energy whenever I was hit by an attack. I was taking damage, so Essence Bond should have been triggered. My question is, when multiple people are maintaining Essence Bond, is the energy gain divided amongst them? Example - 2 people are maintaining Essence Bond... would each person only gain 1 energy every 2 hits?

Aug 25, 2009, 03:14 AM // 03:14	#2
Winston Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia	You can only have a particular bond on you once.

Aug 25, 2009, 05:21 AM // 05:21	#6
IronSheik Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wolfenstein: Goldrush Guild: Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom] Profession: N/	In theory, yes, but remember essence bond you must be taking physical/elemental damage. A lot of damage in the tome is from chaos/dark damage, which does NOT trigger E-bond. You also must be taking 0<

Aug 25, 2009, 10:13 AM // 10:13	#7
Jongal Academy Page Join Date: Jan 2008	I hate to say it, but your idea is not so new. Assasins use it to rush atfh. I only found a german link, but you can see the build anyway: http://www.wartower.de/forum/showpos...43&postcount=6 (posted two month ago)

Aug 25, 2009, 03:50 PM // 15:50	#9
IronSheik Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Wolfenstein: Goldrush Guild: Zombies Go Nom Nom [Nom] Profession: N/	Actually ^^^ No, Protective Bond energy loss IS divided if all are casted on the same entity. So three copies of 3 energy loss per hit would equal 1 energy lost per hit. If the requirements of essence bond are being filled, the energy loss balances out.